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When I prepare my hiking routes with plotaroute, I rely heavily on the directions feature to add waypoints for water, shelter, supermarkets, campsites etc., using symbols to indicate the type of waypoint because this nicely shows up on the map and is also displayed by my Garmin watch.

With the recent FIT SDK 21.89 release, Garmin has finally added a list of additional course point types that makes this feature even more useful. I was very happy to discover that plotaroute already supports some of them (e.g. campsite, toilet, transport/train station). However there a few missing that I would love to see supported:

FIT course point (id)  <-> Plotaroute symbol
store (48)  <-> shop
rest_area (29) <-> picnic site
shelter (36)  <-> accommodation could work, but even better would be a new symbol, since shelters are more basic

I would also propose to map Plotaroute's "water source" to FIT's "water (3)" as it is already the case with "drinking water", since Garmin/FIT doesn't differentiate.

Thank you!

PS: Is there an overview of the symbol to FIT course point mappings somewhere? I only found an old thread in the Garmin forum regarding the limited old mappings.

Thanks for that feedback Lasse. We did recently add some new Point Types for FIT files, but we'd need to investigate to see whether any of the ones you suggested can be added.

"We did recently add some new Point Types for FIT files". This is great. Is it documented somewhere which one you added?

It would be great if it could be visible when selecting symbols in some way, which ones are supported in fit.

Hi Peter,

All the Plotaroute symbols are supported but most will be mapped to the Generic Point Type, as there isn't another suitable one. This is the current list we have for symbols that don't map as Genric:

However, if there is a turn at that point in the route, the turn will be used to set the Point Type instead of any symbol selected:

Thank you for the list of supported FIT course point types, this is very helpful.

I suggest to add the following mappings to expand the coverage even more:

Thanks Lasse. We've got to make changes to our download process for a separate bug fix, so we'll see if we can add those in at the same time. 

My wish list for new FIT file symbol types:

(Plotaroute symbol -> Fit file course point type)

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And maybe this one:

What do you say about:

Just in time Peter! Most of those look straightfoward. Not sure about one or two of them - T for tunnel for example, as people could be using that for other purposes, so displaying a tunnel symbol might not be appropriate. We'll add in as many as we can.

Perfect, thanks.

We've just implemented this Peter. Here's the latest list. The "Info" PointType should hopefully now be fixed too.

Thanks,

Did you see the diff on dist markers beween fit type 30 and 34?

This is so great!

I did some testing on a long run today. Not all of the new ones are working for me. I will look into it further, but this is how the symbols are visualized in the up-ahead feature on my Garmin Epix.

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Thanks Peter, that's very interesting to see the Epix symbols. We'll look into the ones that aren't working.

Thank you so much. This is what it looks like now from your list:

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That's great, thanks Peter.

I have successfully verified the list of supported types when downloading a FIT file, in the FIT file itself, and using the FIT SDK in the Android app I'm working on.

Thank you so much for the prompt implementation and Peter for testing and visualization! Simply amazing.

In terms of Garmin device support, I discovered that my Fenix 6s Pro (v23.00) does not display symbols for the new course point types introduced this year with the Fenix 7. (I will raise this with Garmin, hopefully they'll add support to a future firmware version.) Still, the new expanded support by plotaroute is very valuable for me, since I'm working on a CIQ app that displays waypoints and here I support all course point types.