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    mikhail kamentsev   Monday 22 Feb 2021 15:36:05

    I'm very sad. For long asphalt routes (brevet examples), the Google planner was much better than the OSM. Now we will have to rule with our hands numerous attempts to "improve" the route, especially in cities.
    Perhaps it would be worth thinking about dividing the project into 2 parts. Those who want new features would go to a new project, and those who need Google would stay on the old

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    ENDURA SOON Wednesday 24 Feb 2021 21:40:54

    This is no good. when I noticed the missing toggle for street view, i some how knew Google is the culprit. They are crazy for money. I ma discontinue my Premium account here

     

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    Colin Hoppe   Wednesday 24 Feb 2021 22:34:16

    @ ENDURA SOON  - you can right-click on the map in edit mode and select Google Street View from the bottom of the Map Inspector window - I think this is an improvement as you straight to the Google map

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    Colin Jones   Saturday 27 Feb 2021 07:08:51

    Thank you for the upgrade, I appreciate it, now getting more than used to using the map inspector, and enjoying OS Maps. Now that you have some new arrangement with OS, is it possible to use OS coordinates now for finding, plotting etc. rather than the polar coordinates please?

    Thanks, Colin

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    Rudi Vanhooren   Saturday 27 Feb 2021 09:30:55

    This is extremely disappointing, I can no longer see the advantage of using the premium service.

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    Ian Carter   Saturday 27 Feb 2021 17:02:38

    I've only just discovered that we now have OS maps. This is excellent news as OS maps are my 1st choice of maps. I no longer need to download a route and use another app to check my route on OS maps.  Also just for the record I do not miss Google maps at all as I never used them.

     

     

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    Roger Leary   Saturday 27 Feb 2021 18:21:01

    I’m very disappointed with the loss of google maps.  On a small tablet, (iPad mini) the simplicity of google maps makes it very much clearer to use.  I use the tablet when touring.  RWGPS and Map my Ride both continue to offer google maps and I will have to consider if moving makes sense.  I do think plot a route has the best mapping tools etc but. A minor loss of flexibility may be the price I pay for being able to access google maps.  I haven’t gone.....yet, but my renewal is no longer a foregone conclusion.  Sad.

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    Steve Peake Sunday 28 Feb 2021 16:56:57

    Losing the Street View split screen is very upsetting.  The Map Inspector Street View link isn't the same as being able to see Street View as you plot. I used it for checking pavements/road conditions when trail runs require me to navigate the occasional country road.

    The Street View Split Screen was the sole reason I paid for a premium membership, so I'll have to reassess when my next renewal comes round.

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    Diego\ Bellavia   Sunday 28 Feb 2021 20:58:12

    Very sad to notice the sudden lack of Google Street maps, as well as street view split screen, please reconsider this choice 

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    plotaroute admin   Monday 01 Mar 2021 07:16:58

    Colin - Thanks for the suggestion about adding support for searching map locations using OS grid references, we'll look into that.

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    Wilfried Werner   Monday 01 Mar 2021 13:24:22

    What's the reason for this bad map-change? Money? I'ld be ready to pay even more for the old version with Google Maps and Streetview.

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    plotaroute admin   Tuesday 02 Mar 2021 08:29:00

    Hi Wilfried - no, it's not a financial issue. Please see our post on this thread from 17 February for more explanation.

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    Roger Leary   Tuesday 02 Mar 2021 09:42:21

    I too would pay more to have access to Google Maps.

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    John Abell   Wednesday 03 Mar 2021 10:33:17

    I too would pay more to have Google Maps back - it is why I and my motorcycle group subscribe.  This is a fundamental mistake.

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    Julia Westerberg   Wednesday 03 Mar 2021 22:12:54

    Unless there has been a very recent change to street views via Map Inspector, i'm ok getting street views with that.  in the old days i had to find a business which was posted on google maps.  Had to work my way to where i wanted a street view and sometimes there wasn't a street view.  i didn't have split screen before and it suddenly appeared somehow which is nice.  in the past i had to go out of google maps to my plotaroute map and vice verse.  Wasn't an easy thing.  i haven't noticed a difference between the street views via Map Inspector and the old way.  Sometimes the views are very old and sometimes no street views but i don't blame google or plotaroute for that.

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    Heather Mann Friday 05 Mar 2021 16:10:13

    This is extremely dissapointing.  I use the street view extensively.  It's the main reason I've paid for premium.  Without that, sadly, I'm not sure I can justify paying.

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    Roger Leary   Friday 05 Mar 2021 17:25:03

    In your email of 17th Feb you stated:

    • We are not allowed to use Google maps as part of an app that provides route navigation, which is an area that our users most want us to develop.   
      This implies that you could continue to offer Google Maps on PC based applications but not on an app.  People using the presently non existant app will  accept the absence of Google Maps in a way that long term users of Plotaroute will not.
    • Google map directions don’t include road surface data that would be needed to develop ‘surface breakdown’ features requested by many of our users.
      OK - but loss of Google Maps and street view is a much GREATER loss than the small gain of  presently non existant ‘surface breakdown’ features.
    • If Google terminated its contract with us for any reason, this would have resulted not just in the loss of Google maps but in the complete and immediate loss of service for all our premium members, as Google map based applications can only be provided using Google’s own platform. While we believed this risk to be low, the impact of such a decision would have been catastrophic.

    Its very unlikely Google Maps would withdraw its contract overnight without due warning.  Its very likely a notice period of perhaps a month or more would be given.  In which case Premium Users would revert to the mapping arrangements Plot a Route have now imposed on us with little or no warning.  Street map is OK but lacks the simplistic pin point clarity of Google Maps.  Despite the extra cost I suspect I will bite the bullet and move to RWGPS or Map my Ride.  I would happilly pay an extra fee to have google maps as a bolt on extra on Plot a Route as I still think it has the best route plotting and editing facilities.

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    plotaroute admin   Friday 05 Mar 2021 17:26:44

    You can still check Google Street View using the Map Inspector Heather - right-click on a road on the map.  

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    Colin Jones   Friday 05 Mar 2021 20:20:15

    Also, if you open up Street View using the Map Inspector, then hit the Expand square in the bottom left of the open window, it will give you all the streets available with street view, and you can move the orange man around anyway!  Which I think is close to what we used previously? But you can't keep everyone happy all the time, and some folk are just too stuck in the mud to move on. A reasonable choice, either that or the risk losing all service for premium members, as discussed by admin. The site provides a lot of inovative updates, and OS Maps was one that was a very popular feature request.

    A quick glance at the profiles of the moaners, shows very little sharing or engagement in the "community" spirit of this site, no sharing routes etc. Feel free to share my walks, and thank you all those that share. Those that don't want to participate wouold probably be better off joining one of the other sites mentioned, I suspect you'll feel safer there, really. Colin 

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    Peter Wightman   Saturday 06 Mar 2021 11:10:23

    Great to have OS Maps, much better than Google maps

    (Land Surveyor/Cyclist)

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