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Hi there,

It can happen that the GPS can sometimes get confused when you are riding a route that goes out and back on the same road, so I was wondering if there is the chance to create a route at the side of the road, so that the out and back routes are not on top of each other.

It would simplify the creation of the Course/Way Points also, since if the track is put on top of itself, I would not be able to know if I am creating the Course/Way Point at the right km.

Thanks a lot lot for your support.

Best Regards

Stefano

Hi Stefano - that is a great suggestion, thank you for putting it forward.  I'm not sure how easy it would be to do but I'll add it to our feature request list for consideration.

John

I vote for this as well. i do a lot of out and back and sometimes the turns show up for the other direction. i am loving all the other fetures you have recently updated.

thaanks 

-bob

We'll certainly see what we can do to help with this.  I wondering though if it may be better to have an editing function that separates overlapping sections of a route after plotting it rather than as you plot it.  This would then allow people to do this for routes that are uploaded to the site as well as for any that are plotted using our route planner.

John

I agree that would be  a better way to implement this feature.

Hi there,

any update on this topic?

Best Regards

SB

Hi Stefano - this is on our Feature Requests list (number 12), but at present there are quite a few other requests that have more votes, so it may be a while before we can get to it.

John

OK,

thanks a lot for your feedback.

Best Regards

Stefano

Hi Stefano,

Does your gps accept tcx ? Generates all commands in perfect time order (and so distance) even  if design has overlapping identical positioned out and return sections. Generating different positioned out and return track by autorouter ? If there are no bicycle sideways ? = Wait wait wait.  Try tcx..... now.

Btw. Forgot to tell. I do not think the function Plot return leg of an out-and-back route is functioning properly. At least I do not notice the new expected extra return instructions to be generated ?  

Works ok: By a short test generate shortest path A to B and then generate shortest way return from B to A ... generates the instructions as expected.

Hi Willy,

I have a Garmin Edge 800 and it does support tcx, in fact I always use tcx; anyway, it happened that pushing the "start"button on the Garmin when I wanted to follow a track, if I was on a portion of a street the foreseen an out and back, the GPS told me to go in the wrong direction; when I was pedaling in the right direction it increased the remaining km rather then reduce them.

the problem does not lie in the GPS behavior only, but also when I edit a track: regardless on which web site I am, on an overlapped track it is very hard to select the right direction in order to create a Course Point at the right km.

Which kind of try do you want me to do?

Thanks

Stefano

Well at least you'r using the correct file format for succesfull navigation on most complicated tracks. My (history) used gps (sold in perfect condition) was Garmin Edge 705.

Never had such a problem. Only had to pre add turn warning before turn. Well known behaviour of 705 and some other units.

No Garmin gear in use anymore now only using Android Smartphone. Apps: Track Navigator (simple) and Locus Map (needs study because of many many features).

My advise to find out your specific problem: Double check and have a quick test via Android Smartphone app Track Navigator. TN is very easy to use and understand. See the coursepointlist in the app and browse all navigation instructions.  Have short demo circuit realdrive  test. Find out difference with Garmin gps ?  

My tcx navtracks designs: By Mapsource in combination with JavawaRTWtool.  Or Website design: RWGPS and now very recently testing Plotaroute web.

TN info in tread: https://www.plotaroute.com/posts/1469/D/1  How an instruction or information sounds in TN ? 

See: https://youtu.be/s5g7nJFPK1Y  Very promising not ?   ;-)  A joke of coarse to show huge difference using tcx cuesheet with POI (wpt) announcements.

Willy,

thanks a lot for all these info, I will have a look at all of them asap.

I will get back to this topic soon.

Ciao

Stefano

Start and Finish at the exact same position ? Maybe the 800 when navigation is started does see....the "finish" thinks navigation job is already done ?  (In TN you can easily adjust your "on track" progress). No idea how the 800 behaves.  Try alternative design where the return leg is shorter than the outgoing leg, so that start and finish have a different position on the partly common out_return track.  Then move to the startpoint, start 800 navigation. Just another additonal idea...to test.

Hi Stefano, I had some additonal tests. 

You can't add Navigation orders on the returnpath tracklayer ?

Tested in Plotaroute: Confirmation. @ Admin ? Possible ? As I am new here maybe I missed something ?

Function: To add new directions, drag the "Edit" marker on the map to the required position seems not to be optimal.  

A too 'jumpy'  trackpoint to trackpoint position selector only allows to select and add new navigation/notes on the visible (top) track layer.

The Plotaroute time glider (manual playback) shows position in time and distance (distance marker) on tracks perfect from start to finish. 

A timeglider selector, allows to add manual navigation/notes on any track location even between existing trackpoints, by creating a new additional trackpoint and according associated Coursepoint.

As in RWGPS: Function "ADD to cuesheet". Add free positioned (= ontrack) coursepoints by timeglider selector in RWGPS, no problem. 

Hi

Not sure where this feature has got to because it is an old thread. 

In adition to Admin comment, "I wondering though if it may be better to have an editing function that separates overlapping sections of a route after plotting it rather than as you plot it"  it would be kind of handy to be able to colour different parts of a route in seperate colours. I know we can set the overall route colour but on a multi-loop route it would help to be able to colour each loop differntly. 

This may also help the out-and-back issue described below as it would better distinguish the legs.

Thanks,

David

Thanks for that suggestion David. The  feature request to separate overlapping sections of a route is still on our list and is something we hope to be able to do at some point.

We're pleased to say that we've implemented a solution for this now - see today's announcement about the new Shift Route tool.

To highlight ...... "but on a multi-loop route it would help to be able to colour each loop differntly. "

See the post announcement about the new Shift Route tool. and a suggestion there to enhance the Shift Route tool .......

I know that this question is already understood, but I am also interested in this for my software, would it be better to have an editing function that separates obstacles for sections of the route after it is built, and not during its construction?