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Callum Elliott Thursday 22 Aug 2019 16:50:47
Just out of interest why are POI course_points not supported? While adding them as directions will work, it seems like a workaround.
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Peter Höglund Thursday 22 Aug 2019 17:56:42
When you say that you have waypoints that don't match any of your waypoints in direction list in plotaroute, that made me thinking about how you tranfer the route to watch.
Do you transfer your route via Garmin Connect?
Garmin Connect delete all course points done externally and create new direction course points during transfer to watch.
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Callum Elliott Friday 23 Aug 2019 07:09:58
Hi Peter, I transfer directly to the watch...I've been burned by connect and basecamp and try and stay well clear. I think I get it now, plotaroute only transfers directions over as course-points and not POI waypoints, while that kind of makes sense as someone could put a POI waypoint somewhere off course and it wouldn't make sense to display distance to it. P.S. I wouldn't do that in my case.
Now I get the mappings and have found the directions in plotaroute and how they map to my watch, I know what I have to tinker with to get it to work.
At some point I may end up writing an app to take GPX files with POI waypoints and convert them to FIT files in the format I need.
Thanks John and Peter for your insights and help with this.
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plotaroute admin Friday 23 Aug 2019 09:19:48
Yes, that's right Callum, we don't create coursepoints for any labels or symbols you add directly to the map (rather than to the route), as these are 'off-route' and so would cause confusion when it comes to navigation of the route.
John
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Aaron Wildenhaus Tuesday 30 Mar 2021 22:08:00
Hi All - Resurrecting this thread. I've followed these instructions by creating a route and deleting all of the directions and then adding in my own course points and making sure the turn arrows are turned off. Is this part of the step correct?
When I then manually transfer the FIT to my Fenix 6 I lose all of my Coursepoints and I end up getting a TBT. I'm wondering if I'm missing a step somewhere along the way as it seems like this all should be relatively straightforward.
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plotaroute admin Wednesday 31 Mar 2021 10:21:24
As per Peter's comment below, it's possible that Garmin Connect may be substituting your coursepoints with its own. We definitely include coursepoints in FIT files we create for any labels or symbols that you added in the directions panel. This is probably question for Garmin support but other Fenix users on here may be able to offer advice.
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Peter Höglund Wednesday 31 Mar 2021 19:14:25
Aaron, the first step is correct.
What do you mean by 'manually transfer'? You need to copy the fit file to newfiles folder on watch wired or use gimporter ciq widget (Android only) wirelessly to put the file on watch.
If you use the Garmin sync here on-site or import the route to Garmin connect, then Garmin will create tbt for you.
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Peter Höglund Wednesday 31 Mar 2021 19:19:40
Also, I can add that it's only a couple of symbols that correspond to Garmin symbols. Alla other symbols give a default one.
It would be great if symbols compatible with Garmin could be marked in some way here on the site when selecting in list.
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Aaron Wildenhaus Thursday 01 Apr 2021 23:31:10
Hi Peter,
Thanks for the response.
By manually I meant that I download the FIT file from plotaroute and then transfer it over to the watch directly into NewFiles. I don't go through Garmin Connect.
One thing I didn't try was disabling TBT within the Hiking Activity on my Garmin once I started the course. I'm not sure if that should affect anything. I was on the phone with Garmin support and you can't turn TBT off until you open the course on the watch.
I'll try again in the coming days and see if I get a different result. Are there any other little tweaks that are easy to overlook that I might be missing? Either on plotaroute or on the Garmin.
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Peter Höglund Friday 02 Apr 2021 08:13:52
Very strange answer from Garmin.
"One thing I didn't try was disabling TBT within the Hiking Activity on my Garmin once I started the course. I'm not sure if that should affect anything. I was on the phone with Garmin support and you can't turn TBT off until you open the course on the watch."
Turning off TBT is a global setting (Settings-> Navigation-> Alerts-> Turn points = on/off) and it's available all the time. I wonder what setting they refer to.I've not tested, but I think you lose all course points with the above setting, both TBT and other course points that you have created in Plotaroute Direction List.
Quick todo in Plotaroute:
- Create your route
- Open direction list
- Use Manage button and select and delete all
- Use Add button to add other course points to direction list
- Open Download dialogue
- File type=GPS, File format=FIT, Route name='put in a name', Directions=15 m shift back, Turn warnings=0m-> Download
On watch:
- Be sure that other courses/files with the same 'Route name' from above are deleted from watch in 'Courses'-folder. Maybe for this test delete all in 'Courses'-folder. It could be that you have old courses in watch with the same Route name, but different File name. Watch will only show one of the routes/courses.
- Put the file in 'NewFiles'-folder
- You need to have the activity that you use, set to 'Follow course'-mode, not 'Use Map'-mode. Hike settings-> Routing-> Courses = 'Follow Course'.
- All other defaults
- Go!
