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    Todd Giorgio Friday 13 Jan 2023 19:39:00

    It seems as if restricted roads (36.129206,-86.820714) are not used in route plotting.  It would be nice to toggle access to those roads on - some of us have access to those roads!  :)  Thanks for a very interesting tool.

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    Mark Worthington   Friday 13 Jan 2023 19:57:40

    You could just turn off Auto Plot for that example, but I assume you know that and get your point. A toggle switch would be good to get over annoying "restrictions".

    However, I'm not sure how the PR plotting engine works; is the road/path etc there in the underlying mapping but the "restricted" tag stops auto plotting? It would have to be, along with the ability to ignore such a tag.

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    Todd Giorgio Friday 13 Jan 2023 20:57:24

    The roads I'm describing are identified with gray dashed lines down the center.  Even if you toggle off 'auto route', plotaroute won't use those roads.  For example, starting on one of those roads and choosing the next point as a block away on the road causes a straight line that does not follow the road.  Incidentally, if you do the same with auto route on, plotaroute draws a straight line to the nearest unrestricted road and then plots along the roads to get you to the edge of the restricted road and...stops.  Not a huge deal, but just a suggetion...

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    Mark Worthington   Friday 13 Jan 2023 23:25:00

    I would question that .... when it's OFF, you can plot anywhere, and to "follow the road" you just have to click on the road. It will just join your clicks-points with straight lines.


    OK, slightly off in my rush .... :)

     

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    Todd Giorgio Saturday 14 Jan 2023 02:21:14

    Right, as long as you are willing to click micro distances and follow the road carefully.

     

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    Willy Van Driessche Saturday 14 Jan 2023 08:33:58

    So what is expected is a routing option like the following. (Use Translate)

    Shortest-OSM

    Note: "[EN] LET OP = [EN] ATTENTION

     

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    Mark Worthington   Saturday 14 Jan 2023 09:38:53

    Todd, I hear you, and I agree that a toggle would be smart (assuming the "road" is in the data, if restricted). However, in practice I find the underlying OSM data (upon which PR is fundamentally based, whatever map appears on your screen) is very good, and the oddities of "false" restrictions quite low. Where restrictions occur, it only takes a few clicks to get by.

    I looked at 36.129206,-86.820714 and it seems to be a "private" estate, maytbe, which ha srestricted access. OK, you'll havea probelm within that area, but they are not very common.

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    Mark Worthington   Saturday 14 Jan 2023 09:44:44

    Willy, that's interesting! You Dutch (Nederlanders?!) are way ahead of us with OSM, but us Brits are catching up!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksOip16Tavc&t=30s is well worth watching.

    It's all a balance of course; telling PR exactly where to go vs letting PR use the OSM data to provide a route. The closer together the clicks, the more personal control, whether Auto Plot is on or off.

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    plotaroute admin   Monday 16 Jan 2023 08:27:00

    The routing engine we use doesn't have an option to ignore privacy restrictions, so there is no easy way for us to add an Auto-Plot option that follows private roads. You would need to temporarily turn of the Auto-Plot switch as Mark has suggsted. Even if this was feasible, we probably wouldn't do this anyway, as it could lead to potential complaints from private landowners.

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