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Thanks!

We create a coursepoint for each item in the list of Directions/Notes, so to create a "POI coursepoint" you just need to add the POI information in the Directions table. 

Maybe your search ended up showing page 2 or three in this post.

How very strage! I'm sure the last post was  Thusday 22 Aug 2019 16:50:47

Just out of interest why are POI course_points not supported?  While adding them as directions will work, it seems like a workaround.

and so asked about this. But "now", there are more recent posts.

Must have be a gliche somewhere!

What question exactly do you refer to?

Was there ever an answer to this last question, please?

Hi Peter - 

Thanks a ton for all of the help! I just tested the below today and everything worked perfectly (small issue with the navigate back adding extra miles somehow but less worried about that). 

Turns out I was following all of the plotaroute stuff correctly but at one point in my troubleshooting I had turned off "Follow Course" on the watch that was causing the issue.

I've really been bummed the last couple months with this issue and was starting to think I bought a really expensive brick. Your help completely made my day! (probably year)

If you have a Venmo or something I'd love to buy you a beer. 

Incredibly thankful, 

Aaron

Very strange answer from Garmin.
"One thing I didn't try was disabling TBT within the Hiking Activity on my Garmin once I started the course. I'm not sure if that should affect anything. I was on the phone with Garmin support and you can't turn TBT off until you open the course on the watch."
Turning off TBT is a global setting (Settings-> Navigation-> Alerts-> Turn points = on/off) and it's available all the time. I wonder what setting they refer to.

I've not tested, but I think you lose all course points with the above setting, both TBT and other course points that you have created in Plotaroute Direction List.

Quick todo in Plotaroute:

• Create your route
• Open direction list
• Use Manage button and select and delete all
• Use Add button to add other course points to direction list
• Open Download dialogue
• File type=GPS, File format=FIT, Route name='put in a name', Directions=15 m shift back, Turn warnings=0m-> Download

On watch:

• Be sure that other courses/files with the same 'Route name' from above are deleted from watch in 'Courses'-folder. Maybe for this test delete all in 'Courses'-folder. It could be that you have old courses in watch with the same Route name, but different File name. Watch will only show one of the routes/courses.
• Put the file in 'NewFiles'-folder
• You need to have the activity that you use, set to 'Follow course'-mode, not 'Use Map'-mode. Hike settings-> Routing-> Courses = 'Follow Course'.
• All other defaults
• Go!

Hi Peter, 

Thanks for the response. 

By manually I meant that I download the FIT file from plotaroute and then transfer it over to the watch directly into NewFiles. I don't go through Garmin Connect. 

One thing I didn't try was disabling TBT within the Hiking Activity on my Garmin once I started the course. I'm not sure if that should affect anything. I was on the phone with Garmin support and you can't turn TBT off until you open the course on the watch. 

I'll try again in the coming days and see if I get a different result. Are there any other little tweaks that are easy to overlook that I might be missing? Either on plotaroute or on the Garmin.

Also, I can add that it's only a couple of symbols that correspond to Garmin symbols. Alla other symbols give a default one.

It would be great if symbols compatible with Garmin could be marked in some way here on the site when selecting in list.

Aaron, the first step is correct.

What do you mean by 'manually transfer'? You need to copy the fit file to newfiles folder on watch wired or use gimporter ciq widget (Android only) wirelessly to put the file on watch.

If you use the Garmin sync here on-site or import the route to Garmin connect, then Garmin will create tbt for you.

As per Peter's comment below, it's possible that Garmin Connect may be substituting your coursepoints with its own. We definitely include coursepoints in FIT files we create for any labels or symbols that you added in the directions panel.  This is probably question for Garmin support but other Fenix users on here may be able to offer advice.

Hi All - Resurrecting this thread. I've followed these instructions by creating a route and deleting all of the directions and then adding in my own course points and making sure the turn arrows are turned off. Is this part of the step correct?

When I then manually transfer the FIT to my Fenix 6 I lose all of my Coursepoints and I end up getting a TBT. I'm wondering if I'm missing a step somewhere along the way as it seems like this all should be relatively straightforward.  

Yes, that's right Callum, we don't create coursepoints for any labels or symbols you add directly to the map (rather than to the route), as these are 'off-route' and so would cause confusion when it comes to navigation of the route.

John

Hi Peter, I transfer directly to the watch...I've been burned by connect and basecamp and try and stay well clear.  I think I get it now, plotaroute only transfers directions over as course-points and not POI waypoints, while that kind of makes sense as someone could put a POI waypoint somewhere off course and it wouldn't make sense to display distance to it.  P.S. I wouldn't do that in my case.

Now I get the mappings and have found the directions in plotaroute and how they map to my watch, I know what I have to tinker with to get it to work.

At some point I may end up writing an app to take GPX files with POI waypoints and convert them to FIT files in the format I need.

Thanks John and Peter for your insights and help with this.

When you say that you have waypoints that don't match any of your waypoints in direction list in plotaroute, that made me thinking about how you tranfer the route to watch.

Do you transfer your route via Garmin Connect?

Garmin Connect delete all course points done externally and create new direction course points during transfer to watch.

Just out of interest why are POI course_points not supported?  While adding them as directions will work, it seems like a workaround.

Brill thanks John, will do.

If you want the FIT file to contain coursepoints for POI's but not directions, you can do this by deleting any directions from the route and adding any POI's you want to the directions list instead (rather than adding them as annotations on the map).

John 

Hi Peter, I checked the long and lat and the directions match none of my waypoints, so it's not a symbol issue.  The issue is that the FIT file doesn't contain POI points but does contain directions.  I want the former but not the latter.