Mapping plotaroute symbols to Garmin fit/Up ahead symbols

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  • Peter Höglund   Saturday 19 Nov 2022 10:16:53

    Ok, thanks for the info.

    I think I remember now what I meant with the dummy course points from Garmin.

    I really love the plotaroute feature 'Shift back by X m' that I use to get the course points at the correct time due to my laggy Garmin watch (fenix 5x, 6x and now epix).

    When this feature was used, I got both my correct points from plotaroute and often, not always, an extra that Garmin inserted. And of course no symbols. Really basic Garmin feature...

    But I understand that there could be useful usecases if turn directions from plotaroute not are the the main focus.

  • plotaroute admin   Saturday 19 Nov 2022 09:05:58

    Unfortunately Garmin's API still doesn't support course point types for turns like Left and Right, so we can't send these via the Garmin Sync feature.

  • Winfried Dobbe   Friday 18 Nov 2022 20:29:34

    What you enter in PAR in the 'label' field is transferred to the Garmin connect course point label. The PAR 'description' field is ignored.

    I did a test with a turn symbol but it was converted to a generic course point. Not a problem for me as I let my Garmin Edge do the navigation.

    I have not seen any dummy course points in the 4 routes that I synced so far. 

    The only minor issue is that after syncing the route shows up in Garmin Connect with a total ascent of 0 metres, but I assume that is a Garmin bug. 

  • Peter Höglund   Friday 18 Nov 2022 18:06:35

    I've not used the auto sync feature since a couple of tests when it was released.

    Are also turn course point types and course point labels supported nowadays? And no extra dummy course points from Garmin?

  • Winfried Dobbe   Friday 18 Nov 2022 17:03:39

    Fantastic!

    Thanks a lot for the quick update, really appreciate it.

  • plotaroute admin   Friday 18 Nov 2022 16:22:00

    We've updated the list of Course Point Types supported by the Garmin Sync feature. The following Point Types are now supported. All other symbols will translate to a GENERIC Point Type.

    Plotaroute Symbol Garmin Sync Point Type
    Mountain SUMMIT
    Downhill VALLEY
    Drinking Water, Water Source WATER
    Food FOOD
    Warning DANGER
    First Aid FIRST AID
    4 FOURTH_CATEGORY
    3 THIRD_CATEGORY
    2 SECOND_CATEGORY
    1 FIRST_CATERGORY
    Runners SPRINT
    Campsite CAMPSITE
    Picnic Site REST_AREA
    Fuel/Gas SERVICE
    Map Pin, Marker MILE_MARKER
    Checkpoint CHECKPOINT
    Accomodation SHELTER
    Meeting Point MEETING_SPOT
    Viewpoint, Look Out, Photo Point OVERLOOK
    Toilets/Restroom TOILET
    Shower SHOWER
    Uphill STEEP_INCLINE
    Obstacle OBSTACLE
    Paths Cross CROSSING
    Shop STORE
    Bus Stop, Train Station TRANSPORT
    Stop ALERT
    Information INFO
  • Winfried Dobbe   Wednesday 16 Nov 2022 09:33:46

    Thanks for looking into it!

    I came to plotaroute because the Garmin route planner screws up your route when you insert multiple course points. And the Plotaroute sync to Garmin works nicely so it would be great to use that instead of manually uploading to my Edge device.

  • plotaroute admin   Wednesday 16 Nov 2022 09:27:19

    Peter is correct, the Garmin Sync API supports a more limited set of course point types than a file transfer, however it does look like it now supports a few more than we're using, so we'll look into updating the list that we use. 

  • Peter Höglund   Tuesday 15 Nov 2022 20:14:37

    Sorry, but I think the problem lies in the automatic sync you are using. Garmins implementation of this is really basic, at least it was from the beginning.

    I'm an Android mobile user and use Gexporter/Gimporter CIQ for wirelessly sync my routes to my watch without problem.

    If that is not possible for you to try, you can always try to export a route as fit file and copy that file via cable to your watch (garmin/newfiles folder).

  • Winfried Dobbe   Tuesday 15 Nov 2022 14:00:06

    Hi Peter,

    When I add for example a 'checkpoint' symbol to a route, then save the route and wait for the sync to Garmin connect, the course point in Garmin connect has a generic icon.
    From the symbols that I have tried so far only food, first_aid and danger symbols are correctly converted to Garmin.

    See also this thread.

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